Finally got to try these out on am early season ride in Colorado. Was warm so I did not use the liners but I do like the ease of taking them in and out. The liners will be very warm and are comfortable. The pants fit great and were comfortable and breathable. I want to put on pants and not think I about them meaning they don't ever get uncomfortable, or I don't get cold or hit and these were great. I wore them in two riding days and was happy with the performance. Lots of pockets which I love, light weight and kept me warm and dry.

I've worn a lot of snow pants over the years. I wore these with just boxers to Killington for 2 days and I didn't even almost feel chilly. These pants kept me warm in 5 degrees temperatures with even the vents open. The inside layer comes out of you don't want it but it wasn't bulky at all. Highly recommend