On the advice of other reviews, we bought two of these King pillows. I am not sure if something has changed, but we think they are strange at best, and will be looking to replace them. The outside cover is made of material that makes a crinkling sound when you move, not what I want when I am trying to sleep! The loft material for the pillow is somewhat springy, so when you look at one, they sit 8-10 inches high, but when you lay your head on it, it deflates to about 3-4 inches. Once you get settled in, the pillow is comfortable, but for the reasons above, this product does not meet my expectation for a firm pillow. I was not wanting something hard as a brick, but again, the characteristics of this pillow did not meet our needs.
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