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LEGO City Trains Passenger Train 60197

Model: 60197
Walmart # 568526838
$159.99$159.99
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4.6 out of 5 stars
28 total reviews
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Most helpful positive review
This set is a must have for fans of the rails. If you would like to see where I believe the inspiration for this train came from look for a video on YouTube called Eurostar from the air. I like this set so much I bought two so I could have a full length model of the Eurostar, in lego form that is. Its not exact but it looks close enough for me. Overall fun to build and watch cruise around the rails. Only downside is not with the set itself really. We just want more trains and train track options like the older sets that had flashing lights/signs or lampposts for a train yard, and the ever elusive crossover track, this time if you were to make it needs an upgrade of the tracks being able to switch independently from one another.

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Climb aboard the LEGO City 60197 Passenger Train! This hot train toy features a motorized engine with 10-speed Bluetooth remote control and opening nose cone, train driver’s cabin with opening window, 2 passenger carriages with removable roofs, seats and tables, a full circular track with 16 curved and 4 straight rails, plus traffic lights, a buildable train platform with 2 seats and train service map, train signal and 4 LEGO minifigures.
  • Includes 4 LEGO® minifigures: 2 passengers, a train conductor and a train attendant
  • Features a motorized engine with 10-speed Bluetooth remote control and opening nose cone, pantograph on the roof and driver’s cabin with opening window and control panel, plus a café car with removable roof and tables, and a passenger car with removable roof, seats and tables
  • Also includes a platform with 2 seats and train services map, a full circular track with 16 curved rails and 4 straight rails, plus a buildable train signal pole
  • Accessory elements include 3 mugs, 3 muffins, a hot dog, croissant, messenger bag and a suitcase with LEGO® box inside
  • Lift off the roof to access the passenger train cabins filled with cool details
  • Operate the train with the 10-speed Bluetooth remote control
  • Drive to the platform and pick up or unload passengers
  • Set the rails in different ways to fit your city’s style
  • This product requires batteries (not included) Please refer to the product packaging for types and quantities
  • The included Bluetooth remote is not compatible with older infrared remote-controlled LEGO® train sets
  • Passenger Train with cars measures over 4” (11cm) high, 27” (69cm) long and 1” (5cm) wide
  • Engine section measures over 4” (11cm) high, 10” (26cm) long and 1” (5cm) wide
  • Platform measures over 2” (7cm) high, 4” (11cm) wide and 2” (6cm) deep

Specifications

Features
No features description available
Brand
LEGO
Theme
LEGO City Trains
Gender
Unisex
Character
Train Conductor, Train Attendant, 2 Passenger Minifigures
Model
60197
Age Range
6 years
Assembled Product Weight
4.54 lbs
Color
Assorted
Assembled Product Dimensions (L x W x H)
22.91 x 14.88 x 3.43 Inches

Customer Reviews

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Most helpful positive review
26 customers found this helpful
Everything is awesome.... with this train
This set is a must have for fans of the rails. If you would like to see where I believe the inspiration for this train came from look for a video on YouTube called Eurostar from the air. I like this set so much I bought two so I could have a full length model of the Eurostar, in lego form that is. Its not exact but it looks close enough for me. Overall fun to build and watch cruise around the rails. Only downside is not with the set itself really. We just want more trains and train track options like the older sets that had flashing lights/signs or lampposts for a train yard, and the ever elusive crossover track, this time if you were to make it needs an upgrade of the tracks being able to switch independently from one another.
Most helpful negative review
7 customers found this helpful
Worst Lego Train Set
This train set is slightly more powerful and faster than the last generation, as such the batteries run out faster but this is not a major issue as you can always replace with new batteries. Now the main problems..... Bluetooth is a pain to use, it takes a few seconds to pair and you need to pair it every time you start and hold the buttons for 5 seconds to turn off, try explain this to young children and their friends. The remote control is awkward and not user friendly, why would Lego remove the dials and replace them with buttons to control power?! I understand Lego has to redesign it without an IR receiver to cut cost but cutting cost and make a product inferior than last generation is simply unacceptable. Pity one of the best looking train is one of the worst one in terms of playability.
Most helpful positive review
26 customers found this helpful
Everything is awesome.... with this train
This set is a must have for fans of the rails. If you would like to see where I believe the inspiration for this train came from look for a video on YouTube called Eurostar from the air. I like this set so much I bought two so I could have a full length model of the Eurostar, in lego form that is. Its not exact but it looks close enough for me. Overall fun to build and watch cruise around the rails. Only downside is not with the set itself really. We just want more trains and train track options like the older sets that had flashing lights/signs or lampposts for a train yard, and the ever elusive crossover track, this time if you were to make it needs an upgrade of the tracks being able to switch independently from one another.
Most helpful negative review
7 customers found this helpful
Worst Lego Train Set
This train set is slightly more powerful and faster than the last generation, as such the batteries run out faster but this is not a major issue as you can always replace with new batteries. Now the main problems..... Bluetooth is a pain to use, it takes a few seconds to pair and you need to pair it every time you start and hold the buttons for 5 seconds to turn off, try explain this to young children and their friends. The remote control is awkward and not user friendly, why would Lego remove the dials and replace them with buttons to control power?! I understand Lego has to redesign it without an IR receiver to cut cost but cutting cost and make a product inferior than last generation is simply unacceptable. Pity one of the best looking train is one of the worst one in terms of playability.
1-10 of 28 reviews

Everything is awesome.... with this train

This set is a must have for fans of the rails. If you would like to see where I believe the inspiration for this train came from look for a video on YouTube called Eurostar from the air.

I like this set so much I bought two so I could have a full length model of the Eurostar, in lego form that is. Its not exact but it looks close enough for me.

Overall fun to build and watch cruise around the rails. Only downside is not with the set itself really. We just want more trains and train track options like the older sets that had flashing lights/signs or lampposts for a train yard, and the ever elusive crossover track, this time if you were to make it needs an upgrade of the tracks being able to switch independently from one another.

Awesome

First start with LEGO that can move around, upgrade to LEGO with remote, finally now going towards LEGO control by all or remote control.

Awesome set my kids will Love to play with it.

Only down thing is if only come with more tracks. Max speed Train will flip over, so I also got another set of extended tracks.

Easy to build but something doesn't look right

This is very well designed and everything. but why would a train look like that? I think it should've been designed with another train engine. Otherwise everything is reasonable! But how do I but the headlights?

Great Job, LEGO City!

This LEGO is top on my list of all time LEGO kits. LEGO 60197 consists of 677 pieces, manuals, 4 minifigures (two train passengers, a train attendant, and conductor). It comes with a 10-speed remote control that provides easy and fun play. The front train car consists of the engine piece which can connect to an app on you phone, or the Bluetooth remote controller. However, this eats up plenty of AAA Batteries! The second car is a passenger car, with seats and a luggage case. The third car has a refreshment table and other cool stuff. My only disagree about this set is that it should come with plenty more track pieces. If you set the speed high enough, the train will fall off the short supply of track.

Well done, LEGO!

Enjoyable Introduction to Power Functions

I've recently returned to the Lego hobby, and this was my first powered build. Aside from the fun of building a Lego set, actually playing with it and seeing the train run around the track was a real pleasure. Even combining extra tracks from the 60238 and 60205 sets really expands on this fun, despite needing a very sizeable space.

I look forward to adding more trains, and powered sets to my collection.

Best of both worlds

My son, who's 5, saved for this train set for months. He did tons of chores, sold a bike, traded in his Halloween candy, and cashed in his piggy banks. He is so glad to have worked so hard for it and says it was worth the wait. This set is the synthesis of his two favorite toys: LEGOs and trains. It is a really cool set. In his words: "This train is one big LEGO set!! This is one great LEGO set and I love it!!"

The build is fun, the remote is easy to use and the train runs fast and smooth. We will get years of enjoyment out of this. Get the extra track and stock up on AAA batteries--the set takes 10.

Train for grandchildren

Train was purchased for my grandchildren. The battery placement was the only part my 8 yrold grandson needed assistance. He loves the train. I did buy extra track, just wish there was a few more choices for track.......like an "x" piece and that the "wiggle" pieces could be purchased separately.

Good Buy for the money

I bought this train set around Christmas time, I wanted a train going around the base of the tree. It was awesome and perfect. My daughter who played with it for the first time loved and loves it still, eight months later, yes the tree is down. I do wish there was a caboose for the train,and I hope there will be more trains, and train sets to come in the future. I know there were more train sets in the past, I hope those come back too with the very simple remote control of his set. That is the real reason why my daughter likes this set. I'm going to add the Cargo Train set to this one and really blow my daughter's mind... lol

Nice intro to mechanisation, so much potential

I bought this set for my 6+ year old son - he'd been wanting it for some time.

He was fine assembling the parts together to build each carriage and the locomotive, provided I kept and eye on him - picking up the odd missed part. (best not to have any other distractions in the background)

The trouble started trying to get the remote control to authenticate with the hub controller, located in the locomotive, that runs the motor assembly. Given there is next to no written explanation in the provided assembly guides / instructions on what the various LED light colours mean (there are multiple colours to confuse you) on the Hub, it took more than 20 mins to get the remote controller to authenticate e.g. green LED on both the controller and the hub controller (Hub 88009).

The motor unit is quite powerful, so much so, when going at full speed, the train derails itself spectacularly!!

There is no sleep (automatic power down mode) so the Hub controller will drain a new set of AAA batteries doing nothing in a day if you don't shut it off - you won't find these instructions in the supplied documentation - tried Lego forums.)

The real headache started when trying to authenticate the Apple IOS (iPAD) Powered Up App. App installed fine, but the user interface is seriously lacking - it becomes apparent from playing with the App that Lego don't get software and really need help writing a better user interface. (perhaps they got a 3rd party to write this one?)

We tried multiple times to authenticate the Hub controller to the iPAD App, each time the App wanted to download new firmware to the Hub - that's OK, but being a slow Bluetooth connection it take 10-20 minutes (Patients is a virtue here). On three occasions the iPAD Powered Up App crashed during the download process, first at 88%, the second at 15% and the 3rd at 76%. After rebooting the iPAD it worked a 4th time - taking approximately 18 mins. Wow - way slow! Wasted over an hour!!

(Be prepared for the App to crash and leave your train running - with no way to control it - the supplied remote controller needs to be re-authenticated - else grab the train and hold down the button for the Hub controller until shuts off.)

When using the Apple IOS iPAD Powered Up App; selecting the 60197 soft button you get into the control buttons for the train set. Of which 3 are useful. The Rest seem to control future functions that don't exist (yet) - really disappointing as there looks to be some really fun features.

Living in New Zealand the local retailers tend to be clueless on most of the Lego product range, let alone questions about why things don't work or where can I buy the other enhancements for the train set. Your only lifeline here are the various Lego forums. (Lego documentation is largely silent on the various functions on the 'green' Hub button let alone things you can buy to add extra fun.)

There is a lot of potential here, Lego just doesn't seem to recognise the potential value - yet.

But please fix a few things, 1st - the hub needs a simple power off button. 2nd it needs to go to sleep (power down) if it hasn't been used for more than 15 mins. AAA batteries aren't cheap!! And that Hub loves batteries like no tomorrow.

3rd, Where are the instructions on how to use and operate the 88009 Powered UP Hub?

4th, the Apple IOS Powered Up App needs a better user interface design, run faster and stability testing against common in-use Apple IOS releases

5th, Please thoroughly test your software (SW) and firmware (FW) - it's buggy - Writing great SW/FW isn't like designing and injection molding a plastic brick!!

(Cautionary note - keep other Bluetooth devices away from the Hub and remote controller - things go a bit awry when they all get close together.)

Last note, the build quality, look and feel of Lego blocks and the Lego system is second to none (just the SW needs some investment.)

Thanks for your review! I'm sorry to hear you've experienced some frustrations with the Powered Up functions and app. If something ever doesn't seem clear, our friendly customer service team is always here to help lend a helping hand. For assistance bringing your build to life, get in touch at LEGO.build/Service.

Worst Lego Train Set

This train set is slightly more powerful and faster than the last generation, as such the batteries run out faster but this is not a major issue as you can always replace with new batteries. Now the main problems..... Bluetooth is a pain to use, it takes a few seconds to pair and you need to pair it every time you start and hold the buttons for 5 seconds to turn off, try explain this to young children and their friends. The remote control is awkward and not user friendly, why would Lego remove the dials and replace them with buttons to control power?!

I understand Lego has to redesign it without an IR receiver to cut cost but cutting cost and make a product inferior than last generation is simply unacceptable.

Pity one of the best looking train is one of the worst one in terms of playability.

Thanks for your review. We're sorry to hear you've found our new Powered Up system to be frustrating. We made the change from IR to Bluetooth technology to give our fans more flexibility. Not only does Bluetooth have a wider range, it's also less prone to interference. And by eliminating the need for a separate receiver, it's easier to incorporate just a single hub into your set or custom build. And there's another awesome thing about Bluetooth - when you combine it with a smart device and the Powered Up app, there's no limit to the amazing things you can do. We're always adding new features and functions that can make your train even more fun than ever.

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by GrandmaDecember 7, 2018


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1. Hi there! The track to this set makes an oval that's about 40" wide and 29" deep. Happy building, Emily LEGO® Customer Service
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Electrode, Comp-805469438, DC-prod-az-southcentralus-15, ENV-prod-a, PROF-PROD, VER-30.0.0, SHA-4c05261de7b7524702d8d137579365498522abc0, CID-d857b3f1-d71-16dfb50ea15539, Generated: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 01:10:47 GMT